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and all the emotions that accompany it this week I'm speaking with David Gilbert who is an integrative Mental Health
therapist who uses multiple methods to assist folks who are dealing with stress guilt and self-sabotage.
Over the years and through my own research I've had to look into many therapies to relieve stress and free up some mine space I work on things such as meditation daily and an effort to calm a busy mind.
[1:13] However I wasn't always doing this and it took quite a lot of podcasts and books and people to convince me to try different techniques,
and also to try them for long enough to see a difference I know some of us jump into something think it's going to change our world,
and then it doesn't and you know a day or two and then we jump out so it's important that we're doing it for a long enough and that's what I've been learning as well our guest today says that our past experiences are memories our reactions to stress,
our image of ourselves how our bodies react to stimuli and process nutrients all contribute to overall health and happiness.
David's the owner of ecosystem Wellness Center and has been digging past his patients symptoms to find the root causes in an effort to realign the mind and the body instead of just alleviating
for instance if it's stress the immediate stress of the situation to really get down to what's happening,
so that it hasn't resurfaced or it resurfaces not as much so Dave is going to tell us a little bit more about that I don't think I've done it justice so welcome David thanks so much for coming and joining us today.
[2:21] Thank you I'm here it's a real pleasure to be here I should explain that I came from a background of trauma at a very young age.
And not because anybody did anything wrong just stuff happens and they took care of me the best way they knew how.
But I dealt with anxiety and stress and self-sabotage and depression on and off too much of my life.
So I started a journey long before I went into actual mental health research and then mental health therapy so.
[2:58] I started off working with nutrient protocols.
As part of the vehicle that got a call and it was an amazing experience but I was always looking for the missing piece of the puzzle why do some people respond personally some people respond well some people don't respond at all what do we need to do,
and I would I'm very open-minded but skeptical.
And the whole idea energy psychology and energy in general when it came to human physiology I thought was all woo nonsense but the older I get the more I know what I don't know.
And I started seeing the research on emotional Freedom techniques and I gone through a pretty devastating loss of my own and I wasn't getting over it.
So when a trauma therapist was coming to town you is a master trainer I thought okay if I pay for it I'll show up so I paid for it and I showed up.
And an hour later I wasn't out of the woods but I could see that was a path.
Out of the woods and that's what made me realized okay I think this is an important piece of the puzzle so I started,
becoming trained and did a lot of volunteer work and then over the years that just kind of took over in that one and two full-time private practice and I've never looked back because it's just been life-changing for myself and my clients.
It's amazing and I know that you believe in integrative approach to health is really important as well can you elaborate on this for a bit sure.
[4:28] Our minds our bodies our digestive systems our emotions our early programs,
they're all one integrative system with constant feedbacks so if your diet is crappy.
Every single Metallo enzyme and hormone and.
Every protein is built from what comes in your mouth and if you don't have an open the basic building block it's going to be much of a moron uphill climb if you're dealing with high levels of stress.
Or subconscious beliefs that certain things that you want to do are not safe,
that metabolic demand goes way up so you got one foot in the throttle and one foot in the break you're sucking through the nutrients far more rapidly than you should so your chances of getting into these nutrient deficiencies and much higher,
and many of us have really harsh constant tapes running in our head that I'm bad I'm not good enough I should have done it differently.
I'm learning to see that from a different perspective what would I react that way if it was my family or my friend can help us turn that on its head and start to retrain those systems.
[5:47] So everything we do getting enough physical exercise getting proper sleep resolving this dresses that make it that we can't sleep these all any one of those will help the whole system become,
more self-regulated and that's why I've.
[6:05] Been trained in so many directions because I'm always looking for where is the easiest way for clients to get to where they want to go.
They shouldn't have to see me for decades.
[6:16] Awesome well today we're going to concentrate mainly on a therapy called EFT could you tell us what you have t stands for as well as explain it for our audience.
so EFT stands for emotional Freedom techniques and there's also a beautiful evolution of that this is commonly called tapping and Australian researchers realized just how much the body,
informs what the mind and the emotions should be thinking and how they should be reacting so whenever we have a thought.
That first goes to the part of our brain that decides whether we need to fight freezer run away.
[6:57] And if there's any hint that maybe that's needed it sends a signal to the body.
And your breath might get short your might get knots in your stomach you might get hot or cold and that sends an alarm signal to the brain going because I gotta go.
And depending on what your life experiences were you're going to respond to a greater or lesser degrees to these signals that are coming from the body instead of just going oh yeah there's the signal but there's actually no risk here,
so we have electrical circuits throughout our whole body and that's mainstream Neuroscience now but when you tap on areas where these,
circuits are close to the surface of the skin you're creating a little electrical charge that's bio identical to what you're producing in your body it's like pressing the button on your barbecue and getting that spark it's called a piezoelectric effect.
[7:52] So each time you.
Each time you do that you're making the amygdala that part that's responsible for fight flight or freeze to reassess,
so it doesn't have time to jump in with its size 12 and start the sirens and lights flashing and that's what creates this peaceful space for the Consciousness subconscious to collaborate on figuring out what's the whole story here.
Interesting okay well let's explore this a little bit more after the break I Think We're Off to the Races at this point so stay tuned we'll be back in a couple of minutes and David and I'll continue the conversation you're watching are fully aging with Amy.
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[8:47] Welcome back now I know that there are some Skeptics Among Us and I hope that there is actually because it's definitely an advantage there's an advantage to learn about new things and techniques in a way that you're most comfortable with.
So for some it means physically trying something out and for others it means doing some more research,
even in my own house I'm a Hands-On let me try it out type of Personality where my husband prefers to do extensive research,
perhaps that's the difference between the entrepreneurial mind and the engineer's mind maybe that's what I like to think anyway
so David for those that are researchers what research is behind EFT and how do I find that for myself,
sure I love talking to engineers and scientists because they're skeptical just like me okay I want to know what is it how does it work what's the science,
so there was an interesting study done by the US Military.
Veterans Affairs on Veterans with PTSD and the abstract is actually on my website but what they found was,
six sections of emotional Freedom techniques had a dramatic effect and many of them.
[10:05] Didn't even meet the criteria for PTSD anymore.
And when they followed them up a year later they were still doing very well if you'd like to get a long list of clinical studies you can go to EFT International,
it's not for profit and there's a very long list of clinical studies you can also Google dr. PETA Stapleton.
At Bond University in Australia she did a functional MRI study with people who had food cravings.
[10:40] And they put them in the functional MRI and looked at how their brain lit up when they were exposed to this they gave them believe it was eight,
straightforward emotional Freedom technique sessions put them back in their functional MRIs gave them the same exposure and the brain is lit up very differently,
so this is one of the most reproducible,
and well-documented techniques both emotional Freedom techniques and this beautiful even gentle or evolution of tapping called IEP that's now,
much of my work but it's still in the same field.
[11:18] Interesting yeah I'm going to even though I'm not the research in my family I would actually I'm going to look up some of the stuff because it interests me as well,
can you also tell us David how is EFT and different from CBT and you might want to explain CBT as well but can you tell us what the difference is.
Sure CBT as got lots of studies and CBT can be quite effective for some people.
For people dealing with deep trauma CBT and some of my own clients have been,
badly destabilize by CBT because the subconscious programming was so powerful that the cognitive mind trying to say no no that's wrong.
Just set up a dichotomy they couldn't stand so with CBT what your.
[12:07] Basically doing as you're learning to understand why you're having these reactions so you can learn to push yourself in a different direction and have,
different reactions and that's great as long as the subconscious programming is not too badly out of alignment.
But if it's way out of alignment.
Then bad things can happen but even if it's not it's kind of like going okay,
here's these thoughts in these feelings I'm going to put them in the closet and close them down and leaned against the door because I understand why I'm having them so I can ignore them but it takes energy to keep,
that door closed and things have a tendency to keep leaking out depending on how much the stuff behind the door so it doesn't address the actual underlying drivers the core,
aspects that are causing us to react in those ways.
[13:07] It's just in my experience that there are other ways that are much gentler and go much deeper.
Well and I think this opens us up for the next question I had is about the subconscious mind I read a lot about it as well but can you also kind of tell us a little bit more about,
what the subconscious might is like what it does so that we can have a better understanding.
Sure so we like to think that our prefrontal cortex a logical brain is calling the shots,
Embry advertising exec knows that you sell the sizzle not the steak
because the emotions inform how you feel about the thought so the subconscious is all the rest of it.
[13:51] And if you're not sure how powerful it is walk over a sewer grate with your car keys in your hand preferably with your finger through the ring and as you walk over it say don't drop the keys,
the subconscious is like the here drop the keys which is why little kids told don't drop that glass next thing you know the orange juice is all over the floor,
walk over the next great and say hang on to the Keys and you'll likely notice it feels very different and your subconscious mind stories,
a million times as many data points as the conscious mind and it never forgets anything,
it's been doing this since you were born so every tone of voice every word every body language.
All is stored in that goes to create our core beliefs.
Our assumptions about how the world Works how we fit into it how secure ER r value.
And those core beliefs or largely laid down by the age of six from that point on the subconscious is welcome to the same set of lenses all the time.
Unless you have a way to change that so when we're using these techniques to integrate.
The Consciousness subconscious in the safe way you get to become this compassionate nurturing mentor to your inner child.
And get to teach more of the rest of the story.
[15:19] So for example a two year-old might touch a hot stove and the subconscious might go over that white thing really hurts don't touch it again.
[15:29] Or I could just as easily go kitchens are bad.
Come for the rest of your life be uncomfortable about kitchens and have no idea why and the confusing thing is there's now a bit of Truth it happened in the kitchen it just wasn't the kitchens fault.
[15:46] Interesting and before we go to another break could you just tell us briefly to what the difference between doing these techniques on my own like I was saying before I have used apps and things like that,
but what you know what the difference is between using an app and working with a professional I know that we're going to go to a commercial and just two seconds but could you just give us a brief.
You can only go as quickly as the slowest part of you feel safe going so when we're working on her own whether it's with an app or just because we've learned and we're doing it on our own our subconscious isn't going to allow us to go as far as quickly.
But also when you're working with an app or videos you're working with boilerplate that has nothing to do with your own internal programming so sometimes it can actually trigger.
[16:41] Really difficult feelings consults immediately traumatized I don't recommend that as a first step.
Fair enough okay well I know that I we condense that but we will talk more about it we're going to go to a break and we'll be back with David in a couple minutes I'll see you soon.
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[17:22] Thanks for joining us today on our agenda with Amy my guest David and I are speaking about different mental health techniques to help alleviate stress and and different emotional barriers that a lot of people have.
Some of you may have heard about The Reptilian Brain so David already touched on this but basically it's responsible for self-preservation and the fight or flight reaction,
I'm definitely not an expert in this but from what I read this part of the brain is basically the same that it was when we were cavemen and cavewomen trying to remain safe.
How are we don't have the same stressors as we once did,
so with the definition with this definition a stress response is the same whether we are being chased by a lion or we miss a deadline at work so David feel free to tell me whether I'm off in a ditch somewhere but is this somewhat accurate.
Yes that's very accurate but the beautiful thing is that we.
Are not always driven by our hind brings by our primitive brain are primitive brain is going to send the signals.
[18:27] But as we start to learn to interpret those signals and put them in a context of our grown-up adult lives not the Assumption of what that means from our childhood lies.
And that becomes much less.
Much less affecting to us and much less anxiety producing.
So simply tapping as we go about our day helps to tone the central nervous system.
So my clients homework is your reading a book you're driving in the car you're watching TV.
Just spend a couple of hours a day tapping because it's helping to teach the whole organize them.
Come into a more balanced State that's reacting to what's actually happening not reacting to what might happen,
because if we imagine something strongly enough the subconscious doesn't understand the difference between the Imagine thing and the actuality.
[19:31] And that's why covid has been so devastating for so many people because if you hear something often enough you'll believe in even if it's not true and the case of Cobra there's lots of things that are true about it.
But it's left us with this constant drumbeat that is just waiting to LEAP on us and destroy us and kill us all.
And that's one of the reasons why there's such a skyrocketing rate of anxiety and depression in children and adults.
Yeah well we're going to talk more about that with me in a little bit as well David because I'm definitely dealing with it myself but why do childhood events still affect adults like I know that
you know we talked about the subconscious but can you give us a little bit more insight about what we might have experienced as children and how it comes into the adult life,
absolutely so trauma as a child is anything that.
Anger that causes us to feel like our emotional connections with their caregivers or threatened or that our safety is threatened.
So I have clients come to me that have been dealing with anxiety depression for years because they're going well my childhood wasn't bad.
So why should I shouldn't need therapy other people had it so much worse I feel guilty for coming.
[20:56] But sometimes we just draw the wrong conclusions I broke my leg when I was 20 I was put into action for 10 days and in those days they didn't allow the parents to visit because it upset the kids too much.
They didn't know the kids getting quiet meant that they sunk into complete hopelessness and helplessness.
So when my parents pick me up I reverted to a newborn and I thought my brain is just rebooted like a computer.
Decades later many decades later while I was doing continuing education in my field and I was a volunteer.
Higher little I started to smell Hospital orders and then I heard a little voice go I didn't mean to be bad I want to go home.
I had no idea that my two year old self had assumed they took me there and left me there because they didn't want me anymore because I always bad.
So that affected my entire life until I discovered these ways to actually go back and become a compassionate nurturing mentor to my inner child so nobody did anything wrong.
[22:03] But it could also just mean you go to reach for the stove and somebody Roars at you at the last moments you won't get burned,
and all you know is suddenly they still this diode angry poison you don't know when it's going to happen again and depending on the hormones you were experience to in your mother's womb when she was stressed,
and your epigenetics which effect from nine to Fifteen Generations back affect our gene expression and everything you experienced as a child.
We'll go to what your reaction is to that so it could Cane's on a diamond all of a sudden you go from being a happy secure kid.
To being completely uncertain child who's fearful nobody did anything wrong it's just it was the interpretation.
[22:50] Interesting I'm always trying to be aware of how I react to Eva when she you know don't touch that it's hot
and you know I think all of us are just trying to do our best out there right especially with young children as well
and and reassuring her that you know you didn't do anything wrong but this is you know this is this and this is why I'm doing that so it's I'm always trying to keep a balance can you
can you tell us because we're going to get into more about your practice specifically but just before the break could you tell us a little bit about the benefits warranty that you give a lot of your clients can you can you elaborate so,
Many of my clients because I do a lot of trauma work many of my clients have been through many different therapies and sometimes the number of hospitalizations,
and it's really hard,
to think maybe it could be different because they tried every drug they've tried every therapy so what's the point so for the sake of those people.
[23:52] I give them the option if they could choose to prepay for six sessions if they don't show substantial progress within six sessions then the cost is refunded.
If you got enough tools in the toolbox it's pretty rare that you can't find the ones that actually fit and adjust without forcing things because as soon as you start forcing.
Subconscious is trying to keep you safe the best way of things that knows how it is going to push back a real hard and it's got lots of ways to make you do what it thinks you need to do or.
Prevent you from doing thumb something at thinks isn't a good idea.
[24:30] Yeah it's definitely tricky even trying to find the different modalities that I've looked into myself,
you know you never know if it's going to work you're always kind of hopeful especially someone like myself because I try a lot of different things because I'm
I'm open to those experiences and that's how I learn but you just you never know right and so you're always just trying to like dip your toe in and that you don't know how long to dip your toe in for which is what we were talking about before so it's very tricky so I wanted to mention the benefits warranty because I think that was you know
it's encouraging more than anything that say like you know you've done this for so long,
that you that you know it's going to work on a level and if it doesn't for some reason then,
you know it takes that extra stress off someone who wants to try something new so.
I hope that our audience today is finding this conversation interesting or at least warming up to X I know again there's lots of Skeptics so after the break David and I are going to continue our conversation you're watching Artful aging with Amy on Bold Brave TV see you in a few.
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[25:50] Welcome back to Artful aging with Amy we've been talking with David Gilbert who is an integral integrative Mental Health
therapist sorry my ties to get tongue-tied when I say that David he specializes in EFT therapies but also does a lot of other therapies so David
although you do a lot of work with the of tea and I'm just I'm blanketing calling EFT because I don't have as much for military familiarity but you also use other therapies could you tell us,
what the other types of therapies might be worth investigating for things like stress and guilt and other similar emotions for all of our caregivers out there.
Sure so for somebody who's suffered deep trauma but they can't remember the trauma.
But when it gets triggered they pass out or they don't remember what's happened.
EMDR can be a useful therapy for bringing up those those buried ones things that happen in our adult years.
If it's something that happened proverbially,
then we can use emotional Freedom techniques or I EP working through the physical Sensations that happen when we think about that time of our life.
[27:06] But one of the most profound evolutions of what I do is this Australian work known as IEP intention energy protocol again it's a variant in tapping but.
Going with rigid okay on a scale of 0 to 10 how strong is this and we're going to work that and tell us down to zero and then we're going to take the next piece.
We actually just start with what are you noticing right now.
And they're tapping the whole time but they don't have to tap to all of the points they can and I typically do cuz I'm tapping with my clients all day but they could also just tap beside your finger or top beside each other fingers beside the nail
and that allows us to.
Go exactly as the subconscious is comfortable going so often it will come up as,
my breath is a little tight or my chest is tight or I have knots in my stomach or my shoulders are my neck or getting stiff.
[28:12] We just go right to that.
Aspect and take care of it and then see what happens next I also use the elements of Eden Energy Medicine.
I'm done eating married a delightful clinical psychologist David Feinstein who is world famous now he's done many clinical studies in EFT and Energy Medicine
you realize that his wife actually sees Energies,
so she was able to work with clients and see what was happening but she was able to teach other people how to use these techniques so some of these are techniques that I just teach clients how to use for themselves,
he's a 5-minute daily Energy Medicine routine video on my website that's free for anybody to use
and it's surprisingly effective and if you're in a relationship with children or a partner
the one where you're grabbing your top of your shoulder and stroking across to the opposite hip if you do it across each other's backs it feels amazing,
and I find the families to do this little brief technique together the families become more cohesive,
hi also where it's appropriate I will wait for people to nutrient protocols I have a team of amazing.
[29:31] Health Care Professionals that I can refer people to including a holistic nutritionist who used to teach at the college a chiropractor who's also got a degree in kinesiology who's hole,
mental am like mine is to get people back on their feet and have the tools to take care of themselves so they don't need us anymore I also have,
research from Canadian director developers in a ways to improve balance and immune response that are very inexpensive and very safe so these are peripheral to the actual work of.
[30:09] Bringing the young self conscious self into understanding the present world within greater degree of perspective.
[30:18] I think it's interesting to note too that you know you've said it a couple of times and with the other like the chiropractor things like that you know the idea generally is that people don't see you guys forever right and a lot of people,
don't go to get things looked at or therapies or Kairos is of because they just feel like they're going to be going forever and you know so and so is going to take their money and what not just like you know what I mean so it's
important to note that the idea is to solve it and move on with your life right so
I know that we talked about trauma a little bit before the break
but many people don't realize that the trauma does not need to be a capital T trauma to affect their lives as we were talking about so,
does trauma have to be really bad to be worth going to therapy David know it could be something that,
when we look back on it seems inconsequential or to everybody else seems inconsequential but if at the time it felt like our emotional,
Bonds were not being met or they were emotional connections were threatened in any way or physical safety is threatened in any way,
that can set us up to see the world from that unsafe perspective when it comes to emotional bonds.
[31:43] When those bonds are threatened then One Way Or Another We're either going to respond by when we're in relationship when we're afraid that those.
Emotional needs might not be met we're going to have a tendency to either Cut and Run.
[31:59] Or we're going to have a tendency to hang on for dear life in extreme cases that client came to me that she was so dissociated,
it was affecting her work and she didn't even really feel like things he touched in the world it was like she lived behind plate glass and as we were working through what was going on,
she suddenly had a mental image of herself standing in her crib holding the bars.
And looking at her sleeping parents and when she was feeling the sensation your hands I asked what was happening as what are you feeling.
And she said unnoticed and unimportant.
[32:42] So that completely innocent thing her parents were asleep how can you do anything wrong that it set her up for a lifetime.
I have to disconnect because I'm on my own it's really difficult because I'm sure many people can you know
have that type of feeling right they don't understand how to address it so after the break what you've all been waiting for David and I are going to go through tapping technique on myself,
and you're going to get to see it in live time so stay tuned grab a cup of coffee you're enjoying Artful aging with Amy on Bold Brave media.
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[33:37] Hi everyone welcome back just before the break David was telling us a story of this lady and we were talking on break so I'm just going to let him let let you know what happened David can you just finish off your story for us.
Yes immediately we finished processing that experience of being in the crib looking at her sleeping parents I saw her reach out and start touching the window sill and the side of that the arm of the chair because
for the first time under living memory she felt things instead of being at a distance from it was really amazing to watch.
So interesting as if you don't been watching it now she's like in in enjoying it are dealing with it right - so.
Connected yes that is a word so David knows this already but our audience does and I have been dealing with covid right now and a lot of stress everybody's dealing with a lot of stress
and we're going to do a topping on myself that day was going to lead so you can see it in live time David
that's all it's over to you but I guess at this point all right so you can either tap just beside your fingernails.
Or you can tap all the regular efp points whatever feels better for you.
[34:52] Right at this moment when you check in with yourself what are you noticing physical Sensations emotions thoughts.
[35:02] I personally am feeling a little bit a lot of bit probably stressed from having covid and dealing with the outline of all of that.
Sorry you froze what was that all right it's a little bit short.
Okay shallow even yeah repeat with me I restore the right energy flow.
[35:32] I restore the right energy flow to my breath my breath.
[35:39] Just let that process and see what you notice next.
[35:50] You know I release all of my emotional attachments I release all of my emotional attachments to I have to make something happen for the camera to I have to make something happen for the camera.
[36:10] I can feel that I'm getting a bit more deeper breaths.
[36:15] And as they still some tightness yep I restored the right energy flow.
[36:24] Restore the right energy flow to the ongoing healing of my breath the ongoing healing of my breath and every aspect that effects it.
In every aspect that affects it.
[36:46] And I release all of my emotional attachments.
[36:52] I release all of my emotional attachments to everything I've connected to the word covid everything I've connected to the word covid.
[37:15] Just check in with yourself again and see what you're noticing now might be physical Sensations emotions or thoughts.
[37:25] Whatever it is is right for this moment.
[37:31] I think it's more on the stress level and how do you know you're feeling stressed.
[37:40] Possibly because I've definitely felt stressed a lot before so I kind of know that feeling that's hard too.
Describe to you and everybody that's watching us where are you feeling it if anywhere.
In my throat right here I restore the right energy flow.
[38:03] I restore the right energy flow to my throat my throat.
[38:15] David when we're doing this you can top any of those spots a maybe can we go through and show everybody what the spots are so it's inside edge of the eyebrows outside edge.
Crush the bone under the eye upper lip.
[38:32] The crease of the lower lip just under the collarbones just outside of where the bumps are.
And then beside the nails so on the thumb in your pot when your thumb is at the top you're tapping at the top and then beside each of the nails.
Then the karate chop point and you can do the inside of the wrist.
[38:58] The outside of the wrist these other points that can be used in special circumstances but these are the common ones
with this form of tapping we don't have to use any specific point any one of those points will help
and just tapping all by itself in double-blind clinical studies has been shown to reduce cortisol levels which is one of the big stress hormones and that's why,
just spending a couple of hours a day in total just tapping will help.
[39:34] The entire central nervous system another technique for people who get stressed.
Is they can take these two fingers and draw a little circles on their upper chest.
And they can do it on one side or both do it slowly just whatever feels nice.
And if you're doing this in an interview Amy your interviewee is going to be going Amy is so intelligent look how she's pondering my every word and that had no idea that you're stimulating
acupressure points that calm the central nervous system so when I was playing volleyball when I was my subconscious but what if I get the net.
I just do this well I tapped a few times and the other team would think that son of a gun he's locate the nastiest place to put it.
And then and if it happened that so what Olympic athletes hit the net.
But it meant but I wasn't afraid of it anymore so I didn't either bounce off the wall and bounce off the net.
[40:33] But what and what's interesting to for everybody who's who are just learning about this is that you don't have to do all the points right so if you're in a situation you can just do this and it's pretty you know it.
Pretty minimal and gently press so nobody would have to have any idea that you were doing anything you could do this in any place.
So you only saw a little brief amount or audience but I've done this
for and I actually felt a little bit of relief there too in that really brief amount so.
You know David we're at the end of our time already I can't believe it but I really wanted to thank you for coming on and showing everyone for more information on David.
46 and his bios so much deeply I really appreciate it so it's my great pleasure thanks for having me on.
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According to statistics Canada that 2018 study roughly 5.3 million people in Canada,
mention that they needed some sort of help for the mental health in the previous year which is a huge amount of people,
you know that was even before covid I'm sure it's much much higher now and all of us are trying to deal with it in our own way but it's definitely,
a trying time for everyone the most frequently reported reasons for having unmet or Parson button games were related not only to not have to go,
and being too busy but not be able to afford to pay which is why I wanted to point out David's warranty which is I think is fantastic.
[42:45] So I'm going to talk about a few of the apps that I use and I've come by to help me on the road to recovery on the road to being less stress these are my top three actually a kind of for top for apps,
but you might want to look into if you're looking into things such as tapping and meditation so,
my top app for meditation and yoga has been down dog,
you can get that as a free app and you can also be a paid subscriber and obviously it's different between the two but both versions are great I use this quite a lot when I was learning to meditate
and also when I'm using my doing my Yoga practices in the morning.
[43:29] The second up when I was building my original habit of meditation I use the 30 day challenge and midi do which is a free app as well
and they have a lovely 30-day challenge which is 10 minutes a day and that really got me into the habit
doing this meditation and knowing okay 10 minutes is what I'm going to do and then you feel like after
you know you're going through the calendar and it's 30 days you definitely are accomplishing something which has been really nice as an app to learn on.
The third app would is called let's meditate it's a free app as well and I use it as well just four more so of changing a voice because I use guided meditations and so that gives me a little bit of variety in my day.
[44:15] And then lastly another app that I have used for tapping is called the tapping solution again free and paid,
this helped me understand even before I met David understand what topping was do it on my own,
as David mentioned it is different when you're doing things on your own versus being with a professional even with yoga meditation tapping all of the above so
things work differently for people so you know at least these are ways that you can get introduced to meditation and yoga and Topping,
in a free zone so that you don't have to invest too much and see what you think about it,
none X so that's it for this week's show already so on next week's show we're going to be speaking to two entrepreneurs that work in the Senior Housing Industry there,
definitely very highly Innovative folks and I'm really really excited to have them on to show you what's coming up and coming in the seniors industry for more information on them and David visit Artful aging with a me.com,
thank you so much for joining us today and we are alive on Bold Brave TV and I hope that you have a wonderful Wednesday.
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